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wasssup1990
Nobel Prize Winner
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 Posted - Apr 06 2004 : 7:19:14 PM
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I have seen heeps of diagrams on the internet showing me that you can get 2H and O out of plain water. Would this work? Or do I need distilled water? Salt is supposed to make the water conduct, but when you add salt it doesn't give out 2H and O. It gives out a very potent Chlorine smell, I don't want chlorine!  I just want 2H and O, that is all I ask. Can someone help? 
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Aaron Cake
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Posted - Apr 07 2004 : 09:40:20 AM
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Electrolosys is pretty simple. Put two electrodes into water, seperated by a short distance (a few CM works). Use a 30V supply, and apply power. Instant H and O.
Don't use salt. It will break down into chlorene (as you discovered).
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wasssup1990
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Posted - Apr 07 2004 : 8:26:31 PM
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So do you mean distilled or tap water?
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wasssup1990
Nobel Prize Winner
A Land Down Under
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Posted - Apr 10 2004 : 06:58:19 AM
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Ok, it doesn't look like anyone will answer my last reply. I've just bought a 5A 30V $198 power supply from DSE. Thanks for the help Aaron, and it worked! I succesfully created pure O and H2.
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Aaron Cake
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Posted - Apr 12 2004 : 09:26:53 AM
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God forbid it takes a few days to get a response.  Generally my weekends are taken up working on mine (and other's) RX-7s, so I only check the forum to make sure nothing bad is happening...
At any rate, I just have always used tap water. Distilled water is actually a pretty good insulator, so you won't get enough current between the electrodes.
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wasssup1990
Nobel Prize Winner
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Posted - Apr 12 2004 : 8:02:31 PM
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Gee, I didn't know that.
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wasssup1990
Nobel Prize Winner
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Posted - Apr 15 2004 : 06:40:01 AM
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I've noticed that when i dont put salt in the water, i get a very shotty amount of Oxy. & Hydro. Is thier a possible way to get much MUCH MORE bubbles, as that if water with salt? 
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Aaron Cake
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Posted - Apr 15 2004 : 09:03:20 AM
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Salt increases the conductivity of the water...hence more action takes place. I wouldn't recommend adding anything, but if you crank the voltage and current, you will get more current through the water and hence more electrolosys.
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wasssup1990
Nobel Prize Winner
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Posted - Apr 15 2004 : 7:08:02 PM
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1. How will i get sufficient volts, lets say 50V out of my 30V Max power supply? I want as much bubbles to come to the surface of the water, as with salt in water.
2. Are platinum electrodes as good as Stainless steel electrodes?
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da-g-dog
Mad Scientist
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Posted - Apr 15 2004 : 8:32:07 PM
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1. How will i get sufficient volts, lets say 50V out of my 30V Max power supply? I want as much bubbles to come to the surface of the water, as with salt in water.
Try a voltage multiplier or a second power supply in parallel with your current one.
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wasssup1990
Nobel Prize Winner
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Posted - Apr 15 2004 : 9:07:59 PM
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Hmm, where can i find one, a schematic will help me know how the voltage multiplyer works. I could make my own, instead of buying one.
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wasssup1990
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Posted - Apr 15 2004 : 9:46:29 PM
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Oh, and what is the best type of electrode i could use.
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cirvin
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Posted - Apr 16 2004 : 08:11:30 AM
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Search google fo "Cascade multiplyer" or just "voltage multiplyer". Most voltage multiplyers need AC to operate, but they put out DC.
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Aaron Cake
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Posted - Apr 16 2004 : 09:03:52 AM
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1. How will i get sufficient volts, lets say 50V out of my 30V Max power supply? I want as much bubbles to come to the surface of the water, as with salt in water.
You don't. You will need to make a new supply. Also, please remember that at 50V, things start getting dangerous. If you can find a 40V transformer, simply put a bridge rectifier on it. You don't need filter capacitors or regulators.
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2. Are platinum electrodes as good as Stainless steel electrodes?
No idea. 
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cirvin
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Posted - Apr 16 2004 : 2:28:22 PM
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Carbon Electrodes don't degrade like copper or steel, but they do add resistance to the power supply.
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wasssup1990
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Posted - Apr 16 2004 : 6:53:03 PM
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So which type of electrode do you recommend? I've seen people on the net use graphite too, they got it out of lanturn battery.
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