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Aaron Cake
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Posted - Nov 11 2010 :  1:56:59 PM  Show Profile  Visit Aaron Cake's Homepage  Send Aaron Cake an ICQ Message  Send Aaron Cake a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Upon browsing YouTube yesterday I was watching some Mazda Cosmo videos and was randomly reminded of Kraftwerk.

So I present, Kraftwerk - The Robots:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXa9tXcMhXQ

wasssup1990
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Posted - Nov 11 2010 :  5:17:16 PM  Show Profile  Visit wasssup1990's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Reminds me of Daft Punk.

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Aaron Cake
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Posted - Nov 13 2010 :  10:50:23 AM  Show Profile  Visit Aaron Cake's Homepage  Send Aaron Cake an ICQ Message  Send Aaron Cake a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I think that it should be the other way around: Daft Punk would remind you of Kraftwerk. It's hard not to see the influence of Kraftwerk on most genres of modern music.

Kraftwerk - Autobahn:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68C-r9kSLNE

And one of their most famous tracks, The Model:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgS252XT_Ts
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wasssup1990
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Posted - Nov 14 2010 :  02:04:31 AM  Show Profile  Visit wasssup1990's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yeah I know what you mean but I never heard of Kraftwerk before you mentioned them. I knew of Daft Punk before Kraftwerk. Daft Punk is my era.

Here's my favorite from Daft Punk. You need good bass though.
"One more time"
Year: 2000
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN2hntZBIUQ

I mostly listen to female singers though and pretty much all of the songs I listen to were made after I was born. My younger sister is partially the opposite.



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Aaron Cake
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Posted - Dec 13 2010 :  11:45:55 AM  Show Profile  Visit Aaron Cake's Homepage  Send Aaron Cake an ICQ Message  Send Aaron Cake a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Here is a much better version of Robots, live and with real robots. In German though...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogj-4ZaDzEA
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wasssup1990
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Posted - Dec 14 2010 :  01:24:25 AM  Show Profile  Visit wasssup1990's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Interesting music Aaron. I noticed the synthesized bass sounded like the bass I here in some 90's Pop/Dance music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIXyUTu3AUE
This is actually another German band believe it or not.

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Yerboogieman
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Posted - Dec 14 2010 :  09:47:48 AM  Show Profile  Send Yerboogieman a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I'd bet everyone thought that tie was so high tech and cool back then.

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Aaron Cake
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Posted - Dec 15 2010 :  11:53:08 AM  Show Profile  Visit Aaron Cake's Homepage  Send Aaron Cake an ICQ Message  Send Aaron Cake a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by wasssup1990

Interesting music Aaron. I noticed the synthesized bass sounded like the bass I here in some 90's Pop/Dance music.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIXyUTu3AUE
This is actually another German band believe it or not.



"This video contains content from Sony Music Entertainment. It is not available in your country. "

Well, damn.
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wasssup1990
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Posted - Dec 17 2010 :  02:27:42 AM  Show Profile  Visit wasssup1990's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Stupid pricks. Why don't they just let you watch the damn video!
One way or another a determined person can track it down.

You can setup a proxy but I can't be bothered.

Try this one instead.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyZ31k8SRLg

If you have no luck you'll need to find it yourself.
Real McCoy • Another Night

The bass line I hear in this song sounds like it is at least one octave higher than the bass in "The Robots".

Holy crap Aaron! I don't think this is the first time I've got this error from your forum.

Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers error '80004005'

[Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver] Operation must use an updateable query.

/forum/topic.asp, line 503

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Aaron Cake
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Posted - Dec 30 2010 :  11:27:50 AM  Show Profile  Visit Aaron Cake's Homepage  Send Aaron Cake an ICQ Message  Send Aaron Cake a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
It is funny how much Kraftwerk can be found in modern music, yet how few people have ever heard of Kraftwerk. Or those who have, call it "not music" or make fun of it. One of my music teachers in elementary school laughed in my face when I mentioned Kraftwerk because he was a self-described "Serious musician". Guess being a serious musician doesn't lead to an appreciation of the roots of most modern music. Hey Mr. D if you are reading this! He also hit me with his car.

Kraftwerk - Music Non Stop (Live)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqeC8WdS9U8

Boing Boing Bumm Tschak!
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wasssup1990
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Posted - Dec 30 2010 :  8:49:11 PM  Show Profile  Visit wasssup1990's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I agree. It is up to the listener to decide for themselves if a piece of "music" is "music". There is some kinds of "music" that don't sound musical to me at all though, like some Rap. Some of the Rap songs I have heard only sounded like a person talking with or without a beat, and that's all. When this so called "music" sounds like that (without musical percussion or other instruments) I then call it non-music, there is a limit to what I can call "music".

This song is Rap and doesn't contain any significant melodies of which would instantly qualify a song as "music" in my books but there is musical percussion and a nice harmonizer on her voice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0QuxqcHjZ8

In case people haven't noticed uploaders on YouTube are having to pitch shift songs in order to sneak past YouTube's copyright protection algorithms. These algorithms must perform spectral analysis on the sound to identify it.

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Aaron Cake
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Posted - Dec 31 2010 :  4:35:16 PM  Show Profile  Visit Aaron Cake's Homepage  Send Aaron Cake an ICQ Message  Send Aaron Cake a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I consider spoken word music because it actually has music in it. Some of this rap crap is more like a (bad) poetry recital so I can't call it music either. Music needs at least some musical quality, not just a beat. Now, that musical quality can be made up entirely of noise, as shown by the Nihilist Spasm Band:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUJ2rJhddxE

The track you posted is pretty cool.

And to bring back some Kraftwerk, here is "The Man Machine" ("Mensch Maschine" in German:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T65NpyfPkQ

Hmmm...looks like I should mod the forum to embed the video when someone posts a YouTube link...
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wasssup1990
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Posted - Dec 31 2010 :  9:51:20 PM  Show Profile  Visit wasssup1990's Homepage  Reply with Quote
That Nihilist Spasm Band was horrible.

To get all technical, I think what the brain is searching for in "music" is some form of structure and order. That Spasm band has non of it. For me a song that sounds good is enough for me to like it so long as the lyrical content is good.

That's interesting Kraftwerk music Aaron. I can't remember but do they ever use orchestral synthesizers?

quote:
Hmmm...looks like I should mod the forum to embed the video when someone posts a YouTube link...

Yes

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Aaron Cake
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Posted - Jan 02 2011 :  11:06:59 AM  Show Profile  Visit Aaron Cake's Homepage  Send Aaron Cake an ICQ Message  Send Aaron Cake a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
The Spasm Band is an acquired taste I think. I may have also given a poor example. A better would would have been "O'Canada" but NSB stuff on YouTube isn't really sorted by song title for some reason. Another good one is "Meat Eater". Most of the Spasm Band songs do have some musical quality. There are patterns in the noise. Some just degenerate into noise, which can also be fun in a way. I have some funny stories about the Nihilist Spasm Band and the No Music Festival.

I can't recall any Kraftwerk ever played with much more than a keyboard/laptop.

Kraftwerk - Radioaktivität (German, the English loses a lot):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSklFgKlGEk

This was written about the Chernobyl disaster.
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wasssup1990
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Posted - Jan 02 2011 :  11:24:40 AM  Show Profile  Visit wasssup1990's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I don't know is it just me or does Kraftwerk music kind of sound a bit... empty? I think I must be comparing it too much to my kind of music. I can see how their music could influence other artists in the evolution of electronically created music and it seems they just decided to stick with they way they make music without changing much. Ahhh maybe that's why I had never heard of them before! They didn't evolve enough in order to get into mainstream music. They are therefore unique. Most artists like to keep up with the times.

Here's a song I really like. I first heard it a few hours before the new year on the T.V.

http://www.youtube.com/user/wasssup1990?feature=mhum#p/f/1/5oZ-gwpvRoI

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Yerboogieman
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Posted - Jan 04 2011 :  01:09:45 AM  Show Profile  Send Yerboogieman a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Hmm so parts of the song fruhling in paris isn't music because some of it is spoken? That sounds stupid. Irons are on the way. Sometime late February.

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