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kivdenn
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Uganda
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Posted - Apr 02 2010 :  08:20:57 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good day to you all, I would like to know if permanent magnets exist naturally or they are just made. I they are just made how easy is it to make one. If any one knows any way to make permanent magnets please help me. I want to use them in making a magnetic electric generator that generates power from nothing. I know this will interest you all so please help me find a way of making permanent magnets so that we all benefit.Thanks

Dennis K
Kampala Uganda

wasssup1990
Nobel Prize Winner

A Land Down Under
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Posted - Apr 02 2010 :  10:56:15 AM  Show Profile  Visit wasssup1990's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yes there are natural permanent magnets, but turning them into useful magnets isn't easy I think. So you want to generate power from "nothing"? Do have any idea where you are treading? Saying that you want to generate power from nothing will put you in a corner when amoungst people who sit on the conservation of energy theory.

When one person suffers from a delusion it is called insanity.
When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion.

Edited by - wasssup1990 on Apr 02 2010 10:56:46 AM
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audioguru
Nobel Prize Winner

Canada
4218 Posts

Posted - Apr 02 2010 :  12:46:28 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Solar energy, wind and rivers are not "nothing".
If you need a generator then buy one. It will have extremely powerful "rare-earth" magnets that you cannot make.
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JUAN DELA CRUZ
Mad Scientist

Philippines
476 Posts

Posted - Apr 03 2010 :  03:37:14 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello guys its been a long time :)

@kivdenn
hi dennis, as far as I remember we deals in constructing a DIY AC INVERTER long time ago :)

As of now, I also dealing with constructing a device that can create an electrical energy from wind energy. I used an electric motor from a old car wiper (which is a magnet motor that can be a generator). I attached a custom made a blade so that it can propel even by slow moving wind :)

And it is done. It can charged a car battery for FREE!

But, always remember that "Enegy cannot be Created nor destroyed, but it can transform from one form to another".


-Juan-

juan dela cruz
Penniless INVENTOR
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kivdenn
Nobel Prize Winner

Uganda
535 Posts

Posted - Apr 03 2010 :  06:37:15 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks all for your quick responses, it means you are all intrested in this. Actualy this is not producing electricity from nothing, it is creating electricity from a free and naturaly existing energy called magnetism. Let me try to explain this,hope you will understand.

Think of a stuation where you have a 24V permanet magnet motor which is a DC generator. Atach a non fero magnetic round disk,(slightly biger than the size of a plate), to its amature. Now get six round magnet of about 1 inch in diametre and 2 inches long with each one end being the North and the other being the South. Now place,(with glue or any thing that can hold these magnets in place)the six magnets with the north poles facing out around the outer age of the disk spacing each magnet 60 degrees apart. Now get a rectangular permant magnet mesuring about 4"X0.5"X1". Place this magnet near the ones on the round disk with its north pole facing the disk at an angle.
The result is that the north poles of the round magnets on the disk will repell with the north pole of the stationery rectangular magnet and the most emediate round magnet will be pushed away forcing the next to come into the positon on the rectangular magnet and it will also be pushed away there by creating a continous and endless motion of a very high RPM forcing the DC motor to generate a voltage that is near, equal, or even more than the norminal voltage of the motor which is 24 volts. This out put can be used directly as it doesnt flactuate or stored somewhere in the battery for use when the generator stops or even powering a DC inverter directly to produce AC. What do think of this guys, it realy works doesnt it ?
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pebe
Nobel Prize Winner

United Kingdom
1078 Posts

Posted - Apr 03 2010 :  09:17:06 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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What do think of this guys, it realy works doesnt it ?


No, it doesn't. ------- Dream on!
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wasssup1990
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A Land Down Under
2261 Posts

Posted - Apr 03 2010 :  09:28:29 AM  Show Profile  Visit wasssup1990's Homepage  Reply with Quote
kivdenn, when you talk on this subject your words mean absolutely nothing. What I mean is you NEED evidence! Have you ever heard of the scientific method? That's the only way you'll ever convince a well educated person in the field of science.

When one person suffers from a delusion it is called insanity.
When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion.

Edited by - wasssup1990 on Apr 03 2010 09:31:24 AM
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audioguru
Nobel Prize Winner

Canada
4218 Posts

Posted - Apr 03 2010 :  09:29:35 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Simply take two DC motors and connect their shafts together. One is a generator that drives the other one that is a motor so connect their wires together. Spin the shafts to get them started.

Does it spin forever?
Does it do any work by providing extra electricity?
Why not? Friction? Wasted electricity making heat?
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JUAN DELA CRUZ
Mad Scientist

Philippines
476 Posts

Posted - Apr 04 2010 :  03:46:31 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by audioguru

Simply take two DC motors and connect their shafts together. One is a generator that drives the other one that is a motor so connect their wires together. Spin the shafts to get them started.

Does it spin forever?
Does it do any work by providing extra electricity?
Why not? Friction? Wasted electricity making heat?



I have tried this very ambitious experiment long time ago ;D
It won't work and it will never work.

@kivdenn
Just use y0ur motor as a wind turbine generator. Add some set of gears to have more RPM and a custom made blade. I assure you it will work!

juan dela cruz
Penniless INVENTOR

Edited by - JUAN DELA CRUZ on Apr 04 2010 03:50:15 AM
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Aaron Cake
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Canada
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Posted - Apr 05 2010 :  09:50:41 AM  Show Profile  Visit Aaron Cake's Homepage  Send Aaron Cake an ICQ Message  Send Aaron Cake a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
In order to create energy from a magnet, you must move your wire through it's magnetic field. Period. You cannot create energy (you can't "create energy" very easily anyway unless you happen to have a nuclear reactor) in the method you describe.
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wasssup1990
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A Land Down Under
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Posted - Apr 05 2010 :  10:09:06 AM  Show Profile  Visit wasssup1990's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Wouldn't it be nice if there wasn't a reverse magnetic field produced when you pass a magnet through a coil? Let me know if anyone figures this out please. LOL (-:

When one person suffers from a delusion it is called insanity.
When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion.
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codingplanet
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United Kingdom
195 Posts

Posted - Apr 05 2010 :  10:57:12 AM  Show Profile  Visit codingplanet's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Has anyone tried dividing by zero lately?
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wasssup1990
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Posted - Apr 05 2010 :  11:18:35 AM  Show Profile  Visit wasssup1990's Homepage  Reply with Quote
In mathematics we say that dividing by zero is undefined. Mathematics is a tool we use to try and understand the realm of observable reality. When a divide by zero occurs what does it really mean in reality? With reality comes mathematics thereafter, not the other way around.

Ummm it's a bit late. I'm going to bed.

When one person suffers from a delusion it is called insanity.
When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion.
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kivdenn
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Uganda
535 Posts

Posted - Apr 07 2010 :  04:31:47 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Guys am not mad, I know its impossible to create energy from nothing but there are some people who have done it and it works only that they are mean with there ideas. Good enough they provide samples like this one http://www.metacafe.com/watch/3427891/free_energy_how_to_build_magnetic_power_generator_for_home/ and they really work. Now if that prototype works cant we magnify it? I believe if a small LED can be lit with small radio motor, why not my entire house with a bigger motor. Please have alook and tell me what you think.

Dennis K
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wasssup1990
Nobel Prize Winner

A Land Down Under
2261 Posts

Posted - Apr 07 2010 :  04:44:44 AM  Show Profile  Visit wasssup1990's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ahh the magic of video editing. If I can think of a way to fake something then it can be faked by someone else. I can replicated his experiment but it will be fake.

When one person suffers from a delusion it is called insanity.
When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion.
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pebe
Nobel Prize Winner

United Kingdom
1078 Posts

Posted - Apr 07 2010 :  07:07:18 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dennis, do you mean to say that all the time you have spent trying to get an inverter to work, was wasted?
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