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kivdenn
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Posted - Feb 19 2009 :  01:55:33 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey all, I have analysed this circuit http://www.aaroncake.net/forum/uploaded/JUAN%20DELA%20CRUZ/200861173754_LOW%20COST%20500W%20MODIFIED%20SINE%20WAVE%20INVERTER.GIF and realised the the LVD circuit is makin it very user unfriendly as the user has to manualy turn it on when the the LVD is activated and the battery has regained. It is for this reason that I want to eliminate the LVD circuit and replace it with my window voltage comparator that automaticaly off and on and the battery discharges and recharges. I have tried to modify the circuit and this is waht i have come up with , is it ik? Thanks Dennis

Download Attachment: Oscilator1.jpg
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Edited by - kivdenn on Feb 19 2009 01:57:54 AM

pebe
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Posted - Feb 19 2009 :  04:36:49 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
At what battery voltage or state-of-charge do you want the inverter to come back on?
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kivdenn
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Posted - Feb 20 2009 :  02:14:03 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I want the automatic LVD circuit to shutdown at 10.5 and reconect and reconnect at 11.5 hence a window voltage of 1 volt. I dont want one with a reset button.
By the way can my circuit above work after I eliminated the LVD circuit? Thanks
Dennis
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pebe
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Posted - Feb 20 2009 :  04:22:03 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kivdenn

I want the automatic LVD circuit to shutdown at 10.5 and reconect and reconnect at 11.5 hence a window voltage of 1 volt. I dont want one with a reset button.


The battery voltage might rise above 11.5volts once the load is removed, so defeating the object. But why have you got an objection to the reset button? Are you using the inverter to supply electricity when the public utility's electricity fails? And do you to charge the battery from it? If so, you will have to have a means of disconnecting your inverter from the load when the supply comes back on. Why not incorporate thye reset with that?

quote:
By the way can my circuit above work after I eliminated the LVD circuit? Thanks
Dennis

How I HATE trying to decypher wiring diagrams that only show pin numbers, and not the functions of an IC.

As far as I can see, you have no way of measuring the battery voltage, so it won't work.
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kivdenn
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Posted - Mar 02 2009 :  10:11:50 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pebe

At what battery voltage or state-of-charge do you want the inverter to come back on?



Can this circuit work minus it LVD circuit? Thanks
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pebe
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Posted - Mar 02 2009 :  12:29:29 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you are talking about the circuit in your first posting then yes, it will.

Here is the original.

http://www.aaroncake.net/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7531&whichpage=2

But NOTE that CE and CK of the 4017 are shown THE WRONG WAY ROUND!
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kivdenn
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Posted - Mar 04 2009 :  11:14:33 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What kind of wave do you think this oscilator will produce? It looks like it produces a square wave, am I right? thanks
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pebe
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Posted - Mar 04 2009 :  12:21:00 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The waveforms are shown on the main circuit in red.
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audioguru
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Posted - Mar 04 2009 :  4:55:46 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A modified sine-wave inverter also has a modified square-wave.
There is a pause of 0V in between each AC swing. The AC swing has almost the same peak voltage as a sine-wave.

Download Attachment: modified sine-wave inverter waveforms.PNG
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kivdenn
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Posted - Mar 05 2009 :  06:31:38 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pebe

If you are talking about the circuit in your first posting then yes, it will.

Here is the original.

http://www.aaroncake.net/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7531&whichpage=2

But NOTE that CE and CK of the 4017 are shown THE WRONG WAY ROUND!



Am sorry to ask, but what do you mean by CE and CK and how have I wrongly drawm them because I drew this from the original circuit, could you please help me correct them? Thanks
Dennis
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wasssup1990
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Posted - Mar 05 2009 :  06:32:45 AM  Show Profile  Visit wasssup1990's Homepage  Reply with Quote
CE = Clock Enable
CK = Clock

When one person suffers from a delusion it is called insanity.
When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion.
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pebe
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Posted - Mar 05 2009 :  09:25:54 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kivdenn

quote:
Originally posted by pebe

If you are talking about the circuit in your first posting then yes, it will.

Here is the original.

http://www.aaroncake.net/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7531&whichpage=2

But NOTE that CE and CK of the 4017 are shown THE WRONG WAY ROUND!



Am sorry to ask, but what do you mean by CE and CK and how have I wrongly drawm them because I drew this from the original circuit, could you please help me correct them? Thanks
Dennis


In the original circuit had CE and CK labelled for the wrong pins. It wasn't you who had wrongly drawn them - it was me.
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kivdenn
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Posted - Mar 06 2009 :  05:09:55 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How do I correct them then? Thanks
Dennis
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pebe
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Posted - Mar 06 2009 :  07:36:54 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You simply change over the labels on the circuit!

CK should connect to R7 and CE should connect to R8
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kivdenn
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Posted - Mar 07 2009 :  04:49:10 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What are the pin numbers for CK and CE? Thanks
Dennis
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pebe
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Posted - Mar 07 2009 :  11:16:19 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
See here:
http://www.doctronics.co.uk/4017.htm

CK also known as Clock
CE also known as Enable of Clock Enable
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