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jjrush
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Posted - Jul 12 2011 :  7:15:16 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am new to the forum and I know just enough about electronics to pull parts and solder them in the right order. I found this schematic (http://www.aaroncake.net/circuits/supply5.asp) and need some advice. I need to get the current up to about 100 mA. Can that be done just by changing out the caps? Can anyone help?

audioguru
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Posted - Jul 13 2011 :  10:07:01 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You could increase the value of the capacitors a few hundred times but then they would be larger and cost much more than a normal little transformer. The zener diode also must be huge and expensive.
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wasssup1990
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Posted - Jul 13 2011 :  10:52:19 AM  Show Profile  Visit wasssup1990's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I wouldn't recommend anyone build this power supply. It lacks an important safety feature - Galvanic isolation.

Proper power supplies that meet your requirements are electrically isolated from the main high-voltage power supply with the use of a small, low-power transformer.

I don't have any schematics for you, sorry. Apple makes small USB iPod/iPhone chargers and I have got one. I haven’t opened mine up, but other people have and it is quite a bit more complicated than Aaron's schematic, with good reason. Apple doesn’t want to run the risk of electrocuting or killing people and they also don't want their chargers to wreck their own products when things go wrong.

This thread may be worth a look at:
http://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/12550/how-can-i-duplicate-apples-tiny-usb-power-adapter

Good luck.

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jjrush
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Posted - Jul 14 2011 :  8:38:38 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the help. I will abandon this and find a better way.
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theresa
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Posted - Nov 29 2011 :  8:04:18 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
what is the advantage of having a transformer less power supply compared to a power supply with transformer?

Godbless..:DD
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audioguru
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Posted - Nov 30 2011 :  11:58:47 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by theresa

what is the advantage of having a transformer less power supply compared to a power supply with transformer?


A plug-in night light does not have a big, heavy and expensive transformer so it is small, lightweight and inexpensive.
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theresa
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Posted - Dec 01 2011 :  09:52:07 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thank you for your answer mr. audioguru...and yeah i know that it is inexpensive and lightweight but what are other advantages aside from those?

Godbless..:DD
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audioguru
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Posted - Dec 01 2011 :  9:33:14 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
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.....what are other advantages aside from those?

I told you the advantages. Why do you want more?
It is a simple stupid night-light.
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Aaron Cake
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Posted - Dec 03 2011 :  10:34:38 AM  Show Profile  Visit Aaron Cake's Homepage  Send Aaron Cake an ICQ Message  Send Aaron Cake a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by theresa

what is the advantage of having a transformer less power supply compared to a power supply with transformer?



Becuase it is compact. So if very little current is required, thereis no need for any kind of bulky transformer, PWM stages, etc. For example, in the IR Switch schematic on this site, a similar circuit is used to power the receiver, keeping it small enough to be tucked into a light switch box.
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