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junaidi
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Malaysia
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Posted - Dec 16 2009 :  9:39:28 PM  Show Profile  Visit junaidi's Homepage  Reply with Quote
hai all ... i junaidi from malaysia.. i have an incubator .. but still old scholl type..(manual) now i want to upgrade to auto turner..
need advice from all friends here..
i plan to use D/C motor.. to turn my turner.. i have try it before.. but i dont have idea to start and stop that D/C motor...
that motor continue running and stop only when i push the stop suiz..

please help me.. to desing one simple circuit to stop and start the D/C motor AUTOMATICLY..



MOTOR TURN....around 35 degre angle.....stop for 4 hour after touch micro swith (step 1 )....and turn again same condition like (step 1), and stop again 4 hour .. operate in 24 hours....(now i manualy push the switch)

my problem here at (step 1) i dont have any idea to run the motor again after the power cut off by micro switch..

plese help me...

Aaron Cake
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Canada
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Posted - Dec 17 2009 :  09:43:21 AM  Show Profile  Visit Aaron Cake's Homepage  Send Aaron Cake an ICQ Message  Send Aaron Cake a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Instead of making the motor only operate 35 degrees, why not accomplish that with something mechanical like a cam wheel? Use a gear motor (probably already built into the incubator) to operate a cam shaped so that it will turn the rollers and then release after about 35 degrees? Then use any number of timer kits (search Google for "cyclic timer electronics kit") to run the motor for a few seconds every 4 hours. That way you don't have to worry about the motor running away or trying to control the position of a DC motor precisely.
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junaidi
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Malaysia
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Posted - Dec 18 2009 :  8:27:18 PM  Show Profile  Visit junaidi's Homepage  Reply with Quote
tq Aaron.. i will try to find cyclic timer kit.. i hope that thing is availabe aruond malaysia...
tq again..

one more question.. what function of TIMER RELAY DELAY?
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junaidi
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Malaysia
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Posted - Dec 18 2009 :  8:53:40 PM  Show Profile  Visit junaidi's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aaron Cake

Instead of making the motor only operate 35 degrees, why not accomplish that with something mechanical like a cam wheel? Use a gear motor (probably already built into the incubator) to operate a cam shaped so that it will turn the rollers and then release after about 35 degrees? Then use any number of timer kits (search Google for "cyclic timer electronics kit") to run the motor for a few seconds every 4 hours. That way you don't have to worry about the motor running away or trying to control the position of a DC motor precisely.





do you mean this cyclic timer electronics kit?

i dont thing so i can have it at my place...
but anybody can give a diagram for built this cyclic timer electronics.?



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Aaron Cake
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Canada
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Posted - Dec 19 2009 :  10:38:39 AM  Show Profile  Visit Aaron Cake's Homepage  Send Aaron Cake an ICQ Message  Send Aaron Cake a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
That would be one example. There are many kit vendors, much closer to you then Cana Kits which is in Canada.

Check the datasheet for the LM556 dual timer. I think it has an example circuit of using one of the timers to trigger the other.
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junaidi
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Malaysia
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Posted - Dec 20 2009 :  8:45:46 PM  Show Profile  Visit junaidi's Homepage  Reply with Quote
very tough task for me.. to search all this detail.. but i must try.. tq for your info and support...
i really hope somebody can give me complete diagram for cyclic timer electronics ...
thanks to all
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junaidi
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Malaysia
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Posted - Dec 22 2009 :  01:47:31 AM  Show Profile  Visit junaidi's Homepage  Reply with Quote
OMRON H3CRF TIMER
Twin timer (for example, good to make a cyclic meter).
Electronic multifunctionnal timer.
16 time ranges : from 0,05 sec to 300 hrs.
1 time function (asymmetric flashing).
Output : 2 delayed reverser relays 5 A/250 V.
Front case : 48 x 48 mm.
11-pin socket connection.
H3CRF - 24V timer.


now i try this type of timer...

it work.. but the cost was cracks my pocket .

Edited by - junaidi on Dec 22 2009 01:51:46 AM
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Aaron Cake
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Canada
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Posted - Dec 24 2009 :  09:10:16 AM  Show Profile  Visit Aaron Cake's Homepage  Send Aaron Cake an ICQ Message  Send Aaron Cake a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
That's an industrial timer which is designed to operate in a factory for many years under harsh conditions. The cost is quite high compared to something designed for consumer use or a homemade circuit with the LM556.
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junaidi
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Malaysia
8 Posts

Posted - Dec 27 2009 :  7:48:23 PM  Show Profile  Visit junaidi's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aaron Cake

That's an industrial timer which is designed to operate in a factory for many years under harsh conditions. The cost is quite high compared to something designed for consumer use or a homemade circuit with the LM556.



any idea.. of circuit layout and part to build cyclic timer...
i need part of list to made the circuit.

tq
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sergiosparks
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Philippines
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Posted - Dec 30 2009 :  07:00:43 AM  Show Profile  Send sergiosparks an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
Wow it's like a Lamborgini kind of timer..
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junaidi
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Malaysia
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Posted - Dec 30 2009 :  9:39:15 PM  Show Profile  Visit junaidi's Homepage  Reply with Quote
seriosparks.. lol... i wish i want to have one lamborgini...
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Aaron Cake
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Canada
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Posted - Jan 01 2010 :  10:35:03 AM  Show Profile  Visit Aaron Cake's Homepage  Send Aaron Cake an ICQ Message  Send Aaron Cake a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I Googled "cyclic timer circuit" and found this:
http://www.edutek.ltd.uk/Circuit_Pages/24hrTimer.html

It uses a crystal oscillator and a counter instead of a 555 timer. Way more accurate...
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junaidi
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Malaysia
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Posted - Jan 04 2010 :  9:04:37 PM  Show Profile  Visit junaidi's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I CAN OPEN THE LINK...
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nicholas987
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Posted - Mar 25 2010 :  04:58:16 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
really useful information..............

susan prince
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