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pearltorto
Apprentice
United Kingdom
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Posted - Feb 01 2008 : 4:31:37 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Aaron Cake
quote: Originally posted by mrgone
And even before that they did math that blows us away. We still can't duplicate the pyramids.
Of course we can. It would just cost a stupid amount of money.
The Egyptians had no hope of accomplishing things we do everyday. Just typing into this forum is so far beyond their realm of comprehension that probably even our best linguists could not even make them grasp the concept. Could the Egyptians build a space station? A hydroelectric power plant? A bridge from the mainland to Prince Edward Island? Nope...
thats a bit harsh. They built those pyramids using maths and little resources give them some credit. |
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mrgone
Nobel Prize Winner
USA
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Posted - Feb 02 2008 : 10:45:20 AM
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Good point on resources. Yeah resources & man power. Certainly the technology of today is extreme, I'm not saying it isn't. I'm just saying that there were most certainly highly advanced cultures before us. That early man was not just a bunch of dumb cave dwellers with clubs. Though they didn't have computers, in a way that could have been a good thing as far as their own mental capacities. I look at some of the math they did back then & I am utterly astounded! |
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Aaron Cake
Administrator
Canada
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Posted - Feb 03 2008 : 10:49:44 AM
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The only advantage they had to us is time and cheap labour. I'm not at all saying that it's not a great accomplishment, but to say that we couldn't do something today is a bit inaccurate.
Math has been around for a very long time and while it is certainly impressive how it was developed, I don't find it astonishing.
Early man was a bunch of cave dwellers with clubs. Then they developed throwing sticks, then spears, then bows, etc. Finally rudimentary math and understandings of shapes, etc. This took thousands of years. It was far from a quick process. We also aren't the only animals that can do math. Dogs are fairly good at basic math, we all know baboons and other primates are quite good, crows are a bit more skilled then dogs in that they will actually solve math problems and then make the tools to carry out the operation.
I'm all for giving ancient culture the credit the deserve, but in my opinion claiming they did stuff thousands of years ago that we could not do today is far from correct. |
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mrgone
Nobel Prize Winner
USA
1176 Posts |
Posted - Feb 03 2008 : 11:10:13 AM
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You know where this is going don't you? Creationism as opposed to evolution. Aaron, you appear to be an evolutionist. Is this correct? Did you catch what I was saying about the book of Enoch? Alot of historical documents have been removed, deliberately. Why do you think the Dead Sea scrolls where hidden? |
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mrgone
Nobel Prize Winner
USA
1176 Posts |
Posted - Feb 03 2008 : 2:17:02 PM
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I did some more work to it:
Download Attachment: Pulley12a.GIF 57.6 KB
You see...the pulley will be motor driven (not drawn yet. |
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cyclopsitis
Nobel Prize Winner
Canada
732 Posts |
Posted - Feb 04 2008 : 10:41:20 AM
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Very cool! I like how the design is comming a long! |
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pebe
Nobel Prize Winner
United Kingdom
1078 Posts |
Posted - Feb 04 2008 : 12:03:44 PM
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quote: Originally posted by mrgone
You know where this is going don't you? Creationism as opposed to evolution......
The two are inseparable. Something can only be said to evolve if it advances or improves from a previous known condition.
It must first be made/manufactured/designed/created. |
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mrgone
Nobel Prize Winner
USA
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Posted - Feb 04 2008 : 1:34:33 PM
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This will depend on an individuals belief system. Truthfully I don't believe anything evolves, but everyone is entitled to their own beliefs. Obviously I love the heavenly Father :) |
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Aaron Cake
Administrator
Canada
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Posted - Feb 06 2008 : 09:17:00 AM
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quote: Originally posted by mrgone
You know where this is going don't you? Creationism as opposed to evolution. Aaron, you appear to be an evolutionist. Is this correct? Did you catch what I was saying about the book of Enoch? Alot of historical documents have been removed, deliberately. Why do you think the Dead Sea scrolls where hidden?
I don't discuss anything in terms of religious belief except with a few very select people, and never in public. |
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