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cyclopsitis
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Posted - Feb 15 2007 :  6:21:03 PM  Show Profile  Click to see cyclopsitis's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Very cool! I like reading about peoples projects :D
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pebe
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Posted - Feb 15 2007 :  6:48:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When the marbles got to the bottom of the ramp, how did they get back into the hopper?
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CurrentOverflow
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Posted - Feb 15 2007 :  6:56:33 PM  Show Profile  Click to see CurrentOverflow's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
they hit the belt in some sort of way so that it moved or something and when they kept going it kept moving. the top part regulated the speed so that the #of marbles that fell would always be consistent.

~Mike~
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pebe
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Posted - Feb 15 2007 :  7:37:37 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
'Hit the belt' = energy expended, so it's not perpetual motion.
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CurrentOverflow
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Posted - Feb 15 2007 :  8:23:23 PM  Show Profile  Click to see CurrentOverflow's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Well it worked lol "the magic of the vortex"
and the energy is transfered into the moving belt which restarts the proccess thus the perpetual motion.

~Mike~
Theres 10 kinds of people, those who understand binary and those who don't
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cirvin
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Posted - Feb 15 2007 :  9:10:25 PM  Show Profile  Send cirvin an AOL message  Reply with Quote
In all but perfectly elastic collisions, which don't exist in the macroscopic world, kinetic energy is not conserved.

Build the machine and see if it works. It might run for a minute, but it will run out of marbles at the top and will stop.
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CurrentOverflow
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Posted - Feb 15 2007 :  10:01:23 PM  Show Profile  Click to see CurrentOverflow's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
It doesnt all need to be conserved. It just needs enough to get the thing going. Honestly i dont even know how the belt works trying to figure i out while arguing :)

~Mike~
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cirvin
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Posted - Feb 16 2007 :  06:47:55 AM  Show Profile  Send cirvin an AOL message  Reply with Quote
It takes the same amount of energy to raise up a single marble as a single marble falls from the top. if the falling marble looses energy, it will not have enough to raise one marble back to the top. It will take more than one marble to do it and your reservoir of marbles at the top will be exhausted because it looses marbles faster than they can be replenished. The reservoir will only stay full if each falling marble can move the belt enough to replace it in the queue.
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CurrentOverflow
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Posted - Feb 16 2007 :  07:13:34 AM  Show Profile  Click to see CurrentOverflow's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
The site could just be some theory he made up in his little head because #1 theres no actual visual proof and #2 he vaguely explains how it works and he took less than a minute to make the picture.

On the other hand there were 8 marbles and it took 4 marbles to raise one marble to the top i believe, maybe this was enough for this little contraption

~Mike~
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Binary 1011001101
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Posted - Feb 16 2007 :  07:41:51 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yep thats what I thought, at first I beleved it then I showed the site to someone else and he said it was a joke...
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cyclopsitis
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Posted - Feb 16 2007 :  09:15:10 AM  Show Profile  Click to see cyclopsitis's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Yeah I was wondering about that... Energy up would equal energy down... Its two vectors going in opposite directions = no energy. Once again I say if we lived in a perfect world there would be no losses! Damn physics!

I really liked that one link that binary gave though: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion

The bowel siphon thing! If only it would work!

K
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pebe
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Posted - Feb 19 2007 :  05:15:22 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Binary 1011001101

You did a mistake... hehe just kiddin!
Im on the 5th read through and still a lille confused!

pebe,
I forgot to add this to the previous post, What I want is to discharge a capacitor suddenly through a coil this causing a iron projectile inside the coil to move... somehow. The 1.7ohms is the resistance if the coil.



See here for a gun.
http://www.gausspistol.com/
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CurrentOverflow
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Posted - Feb 19 2007 :  10:57:49 AM  Show Profile  Click to see CurrentOverflow's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Reminds me of that new roller coaster thats all magnets, fastest one in the world i believe :P

~Mike~
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Binary 1011001101
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Posted - Feb 19 2007 :  4:55:37 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ive been to all the sites on 42 pages in google, never understod much.

Sounds fun, thats how it works not riding the roller coaster...
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cyclopsitis
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Posted - Feb 27 2007 :  10:26:20 AM  Show Profile  Click to see cyclopsitis's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
The gauss pistol is neat I'm going to try and build one with a friend of mine!
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