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moody
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Posted - Oct 08 2005 :  10:53:46 AM  Show Profile  Visit moody's Homepage  Send moody an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Whats the easiest type of jet engine out there to build from nothing at all?

ive always wanted to build one but never really done it.

to me it looks like the pulse jets are the easiest
just a pipe in the shape of a U and a bigger chamber with spark and fuel inlet one one side and the other side is the output

anyone have any tips?

"I reject your reality and substitute my own" -Adam Savage (Myth busters)

Edited by - Aaron Cake on Oct 10 2005 10:21:21 AM

audioguru
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Canada
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Posted - Oct 08 2005 :  5:29:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I posted an article in another thread of a guy using a car's turbo to make a jet turbine. He used fuel escaping from a propane tank to cool his beer. The tank got cold. He couldn't just let the propane go into the air, so he burned it in the noisy jet turbine.

I also posted an article about a pulse jet engine. In the video, the "flame-out" when it ran out of gas was spectacular.

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audioguru
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Posted - Oct 08 2005 :  5:32:24 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What happened? In the middle of typing it said, "Thankyou for posting" and it posted itself a dozen times.

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moody
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USA
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Posted - Oct 09 2005 :  12:32:18 AM  Show Profile  Visit moody's Homepage  Send moody an AOL message  Reply with Quote
i saw that turbo one and the beer one

i think im going to make a pulse jet engine because it looks really easy

I can search the web for some plans for one but if anyone knows some sites that explain the building process clearly please post a link here

"I reject your reality and substitute my own" -Adam Savage (Myth busters)
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moody
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USA
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Posted - Oct 09 2005 :  12:57:20 AM  Show Profile  Visit moody's Homepage  Send moody an AOL message  Reply with Quote
is this all there really is to it?

http://www.beck-technologies.com/images/gallerypiclockwood1.jpg

just looks like some pipe bent into a U and a gas chamber at one end with a sparker

looks really simple...too simple

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audioguru
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Posted - Oct 09 2005 :  1:47:05 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If it looks too simple, then it is too simple.
I think you need a valve to close at the air intake when the fuel mixture has been injected, to keep the blast going out the exhaust instead of out the intake.
Maybe you could make the air intake smaller than the exhaust.

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cirvin
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Posted - Oct 09 2005 :  3:42:37 PM  Show Profile  Send cirvin an AOL message  Reply with Quote
The Lockwood engien is a truely valveless design.

http://www.aardvark.co.nz/pjet/valveless.htm

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moody
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Posted - Oct 10 2005 :  12:56:29 AM  Show Profile  Visit moody's Homepage  Send moody an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:

If it looks too simple, then it is too simple.
I think you need a valve to close at the air intake when the fuel mixture has been injected, to keep the blast going out the exhaust instead of out the intake.
Maybe you could make the air intake smaller than the exhaust.





the web page says thats a valveless engine

and as you can see here
http://www.home.no/andreas.sunnhordvik/English/mechanical/valveless_e.htm

the intake is smaller than the exhaust

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Edited by - moody on Oct 10 2005 01:01:48 AM
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audioguru
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Posted - Oct 10 2005 :  04:15:46 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
With the air intake pointing towards the rear for its thrust, I think this engine would have trouble with a vacuum at its air intake if it was travelling at a good speed.

It is funny to see a flame coming out the intake, but nothing at the exhaust.

He doesn't use a checkvalve at the propane cylinder. I wonder how spectacular is the explosion of the tank caused by "flame-out" when it runs out of gas.

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Aaron Cake
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Canada
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Posted - Oct 10 2005 :  10:20:38 AM  Show Profile  Visit Aaron Cake's Homepage  Send Aaron Cake an ICQ Message  Send Aaron Cake a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Moving from Other Circuits to Mechanical...

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Aaron Cake
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Posted - Oct 10 2005 :  10:25:39 AM  Show Profile  Visit Aaron Cake's Homepage  Send Aaron Cake an ICQ Message  Send Aaron Cake a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Pulse jet is easiest. All you need to do is basically bend up the tubes, assemble the combustion chamber and weld it all together. I think it's already been covered in this thread.

A turbojet is much cooler, but significantly more complicated. I've been meaning to build one for years, but everytime I come accross a large turbocharger I save it for use on an RX-7.

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moody
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USA
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Posted - Oct 13 2005 :  11:46:14 AM  Show Profile  Visit moody's Homepage  Send moody an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:

With the air intake pointing towards the rear for its thrust, I think this engine would have trouble with a vacuum at its air intake if it was travelling at a good speed.

It is funny to see a flame coming out the intake, but nothing at the exhaust.

He doesn't use a checkvalve at the propane cylinder. I wonder how spectacular is the explosion of the tank caused by "flame-out" when it runs out of gas.





yea

i would definitely put in a check valve

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guitarfreak
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New Zealand
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Posted - Feb 19 2006 :  11:52:06 PM  Show Profile  Send guitarfreak an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I agree with the pulse-jet idea. Have you guys ever seen "Junkyard Wars"? One of the challenges was to build a jet-propelled car, and one team made a pulse-jet. it was really simple, and worked ok.

Save the trees,eat a beaver :-)
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Aaron Cake
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Canada
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Posted - Feb 20 2006 :  1:55:17 PM  Show Profile  Visit Aaron Cake's Homepage  Send Aaron Cake an ICQ Message  Send Aaron Cake a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Yes, I remember watching that episode. The pulse jet worked very well, but then again so did the turbojet until the turbo blew it's oil seals.

I my opinion, turbojets are much cooler but it's of course significantly easier to build a pulse jet.

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