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| Trioxin |
Posted - Jul 18 2007 : 06:19:43 AM
this brief section of an article was cut and pasted from kurzweilai.net
"What do you think of Sir Martin Rees' concerns about the risk of creating black holes on Earth in his book, Our Final Hour?"
"I haven't read his book, but perhaps Sir Martin Rees is referring to many press reports that claim that the Earth may be swallowed up by a black hole created by our machines. This started with a letter to the editor in Scientific American asking whether the RHIC accelerator in Brookhaven, Long Island, will create a black hole which will swallow up the earth. This was then picked up by the Sunday London Times who then splashed it on the international wire services, and all of a sudden, we physicists were deluged with hundreds of emails and telegrams asking whether or not we are going to destroy the world when we create a black hole in Long Island."
...am i still in the stone age or what?... what the hell is an RHIC accelerator?... and fancy b.s. sci net lingo or not- is it even practical for a black hole to even to exist in our ozone?
also check out this short cartoon http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60UVNS57iMo ...very entertaining- and put on them thinkin' caps!
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| Aaron Cake |
Posted - Feb 06 2008 : 09:17:00 AM
quote:
Originally posted by mrgone
You know where this is going don't you? Creationism as opposed to evolution. Aaron, you appear to be an evolutionist. Is this correct? Did you catch what I was saying about the book of Enoch? Alot of historical documents have been removed, deliberately. Why do you think the Dead Sea scrolls where hidden?
I don't discuss anything in terms of religious belief except with a few very select people, and never in public. |
| mrgone |
Posted - Feb 04 2008 : 1:34:33 PM
This will depend on an individuals belief system. Truthfully I don't believe anything evolves, but everyone is entitled to their own beliefs. Obviously I love the heavenly Father :) |
| pebe |
Posted - Feb 04 2008 : 12:03:44 PM
quote:
Originally posted by mrgone
You know where this is going don't you? Creationism as opposed to evolution......
The two are inseparable. Something can only be said to evolve if it advances or improves from a previous known condition.
It must first be made/manufactured/designed/created. |
| cyclopsitis |
Posted - Feb 04 2008 : 10:41:20 AM
Very cool! I like how the design is comming a long! |
| mrgone |
Posted - Feb 03 2008 : 2:17:02 PM
I did some more work to it:
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You see...the pulley will be motor driven (not drawn yet. |
| mrgone |
Posted - Feb 03 2008 : 11:10:13 AM
You know where this is going don't you? Creationism as opposed to evolution. Aaron, you appear to be an evolutionist. Is this correct? Did you catch what I was saying about the book of Enoch? Alot of historical documents have been removed, deliberately. Why do you think the Dead Sea scrolls where hidden? |
| Aaron Cake |
Posted - Feb 03 2008 : 10:49:44 AM
The only advantage they had to us is time and cheap labour. I'm not at all saying that it's not a great accomplishment, but to say that we couldn't do something today is a bit inaccurate.
Math has been around for a very long time and while it is certainly impressive how it was developed, I don't find it astonishing.
Early man was a bunch of cave dwellers with clubs. Then they developed throwing sticks, then spears, then bows, etc. Finally rudimentary math and understandings of shapes, etc. This took thousands of years. It was far from a quick process. We also aren't the only animals that can do math. Dogs are fairly good at basic math, we all know baboons and other primates are quite good, crows are a bit more skilled then dogs in that they will actually solve math problems and then make the tools to carry out the operation.
I'm all for giving ancient culture the credit the deserve, but in my opinion claiming they did stuff thousands of years ago that we could not do today is far from correct. |
| mrgone |
Posted - Feb 02 2008 : 10:45:20 AM
Good point on resources. Yeah resources & man power. Certainly the technology of today is extreme, I'm not saying it isn't. I'm just saying that there were most certainly highly advanced cultures before us. That early man was not just a bunch of dumb cave dwellers with clubs. Though they didn't have computers, in a way that could have been a good thing as far as their own mental capacities. I look at some of the math they did back then & I am utterly astounded! |
| pearltorto |
Posted - Feb 01 2008 : 4:31:37 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Aaron Cake
quote:
Originally posted by mrgone
And even before that they did math that blows us away. We still can't duplicate the pyramids.
Of course we can. It would just cost a stupid amount of money.
The Egyptians had no hope of accomplishing things we do everyday. Just typing into this forum is so far beyond their realm of comprehension that probably even our best linguists could not even make them grasp the concept. Could the Egyptians build a space station? A hydroelectric power plant? A bridge from the mainland to Prince Edward Island? Nope... 
thats a bit harsh. They built those pyramids using maths and little resources give them some credit. |
| mrgone |
Posted - Jan 31 2008 : 5:14:36 PM
2000 years? Try more like 5000. Did you read it? Where do you think math comes from? Trust me. Those mathematicians could whip are ass, computer or no computer. |
| binaryblade |
Posted - Jan 31 2008 : 3:57:51 PM
My point is this, particle physics and Quantum Mechanics are today's medieval electricity. people fear it because they don't understand it, and even worse than not understanding is being afraid to try. The Greeks and the Persians had a wonderously developed culture but their Pythagorean threom is out Tensor Matricies. They were Meticulus yes but still lack the understanding that we have today and hopefully we lack the understanding that people 1000 years from know will take for granted. As for the Book of Enoh, just because something was written 2000 years ago doesn't make it true. |
| mrgone |
Posted - Jan 30 2008 : 10:08:13 AM
Another simultaneous post. So let me cover here by saying, I don't believe the Egyptians built the pyramids and in fact, coincidentally, they might have been the power plants we seek today. |
| Aaron Cake |
Posted - Jan 30 2008 : 09:55:59 AM
quote:
Originally posted by mrgone
And even before that they did math that blows us away. We still can't duplicate the pyramids.
Of course we can. It would just cost a stupid amount of money.
The Egyptians had no hope of accomplishing things we do everyday. Just typing into this forum is so far beyond their realm of comprehension that probably even our best linguists could not even make them grasp the concept. Could the Egyptians build a space station? A hydroelectric power plant? A bridge from the mainland to Prince Edward Island? Nope... |
| mrgone |
Posted - Jan 30 2008 : 09:54:51 AM
I don't believe we have the technology to move 15 ton blocks around and place them with such precision. The sidewalks around them are more level than anything we can produce.
There's alot of wierd technology around those things. I heard that recently they found they were actually there before the Egyption civilization. That the hieroglyphics was just Egyption graffiti.
Anyway, what say you about the mathematical abilities of some of the ancient Greeks? What about Leonardo da Vinci or Copernacus?
I guess what bothered me about your earlier statement, is you made it sound as if there were no advanced civilizations before now. As if men were just primitive superstitious beings in the past. You pointed out a Medieval period of time. Well yes, This was a period of the dark ages where knowledge was supressed and books were burned by rulers who sought control over the masses. Religion was removed from the people. Certainly they thought anything they didn't understand was magic. They were deliberately dumbed down.
Have you ever read the "Book of Enoh"? It's all over the internet. You can get it in a flash. It was discovered as part of the Dead Sea Scrolls and in fact it was part of the bible before the King James. It was common knowledge up until about 400 years after Christ. |
| binaryblade |
Posted - Jan 29 2008 : 11:00:27 PM
who says we can't, although amazing feats of engineering, man power and endurace there have been plenty proof of concept experiments to show how it could have beed done. The question is not can we duplicate the pyramids but why would we? |
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